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attention. people are afraid that people will look away and that the regency will pass. we want to enact real change. julián castro, thank you so much for being with me over the course of the last few days. that's all the time that i have for today. i am alicia menendez. we will see you back here next wednesday 6 pm eastern with more american voices. continue to follow the story, but for now i handed over to my colleague ayman mohyeldin. hi, ayman? >> hey, alicia. thank you so much again. another day of excellent reporting. eye-opening conversations. once again, trying to remind us all that if anything is going to change it's going to be up to us to make that change possible. thank you and good to see you, my friend. runs by a trip to uvalde texas. the message he delivered to -- plus, congressman jones, where he says needs to be done to pass gun control laws in this country. and conspiracy is at the nra convention. are you surprised? the lies, the radical group is
pushing to when the gun debate. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. at the moment a 16th of y'all in fair condition, a ten year old girl in serious condition, and a nine-year-old and condition. little else is known about those who were injured in the -- a 66 year woman in fair condition. a ten-year-old girl and serious condition. and a nine-year-old girl in good condition. little else is known about those who were injured in the shooting at this moment. meanwhile as parents and you all to begin making funeral arrangements for the 19 children who were killed in that massacre at robb elementary school. president biden and first lady joe biden visited a ski town today, getting thumbs up first responders. as he was performing as well consoler and chief of crowd called for action and demanded
that he do something. this is how he responded. >> we will, we will. after meeting with the families of the victims president biden was seen wiping away tear. we'll have more on biden's visit in just a moment. let's contrast that with what we've seen from some of the nation's top republicans, who passed the suffering of those families, and instead paid -- to the radical nra at the groups convention in houston. one by one, they called for more guns and pirated the response is now become a cliché. the only way to stop the bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. we should know, it was pointed out on this show last night, the head of the radical nra created that slogan in the wake of the sandy hook mass shooting
to deflect pressure from the radical group. and what's more, they uvalde mascara proves once again that that slogan is a lie. nearly everything the nra crowd asked for, arm school guards, additional security, advanced training to confront active shooters, trading for the school, was built into the uvalde response ban. robb elementary had already added extra security, political reports of the school district had a quote, robust security protocol that counted social media threat monitoring software and a small campus police force among its defenses. just five months ago, the police chief completed an eight -hour active shooter training mandate. and still, despite all of that readiness, despite that training, despite the preparation the so-called good guys with guns failed to protect the lives of those 19 children and two teachers, waiting on this an hour to take action, to stop him. we need to know why. today the justice department
announced that it will conduct a review of the loss enforcement response to the massacre, something i've been calling for four days now. i think we can all agree, that report cannot come fast enough. i'm joined now by derek johnson, president ceo of the naacp, and -- dj moore whose sister was killed in the charleston shoe adjourning nearly seven years ago. gentlemen, good to have you here, i like to start with you, we spoke just two weeks ago to discuss the massacre that terrace a cat in buffalo. what does it say that you are here a gad to talk about yet another mass shooting in this country within two weeks, sir? >> it's ahead of the voters, november is even more important, particularly for voters in texas the latino cannoli, must stand up strong, turn up to vote and change the leadership -- and showing to the narrative because at the end of the day it's gonna take public policy. the public policy we've seen enacted instead of australia,
england, and planted to ensure gun controls in place. we stop repeating the same conversation. more importantly, we should not give the nra anymore airtime. it's an organization that is under an indictment for corruption. i am sure that once -- finishes with her pressure, we're gonna find that this is nothing more than a front for the gun industry to maximize profit. members of our community, particular latinos in texas, have to stand up in november and change the policy makers that are in office. >> jfk, before we forget this police response to all this, i wanted to talk about what the families are going through right now. you've gone through this yourself, after sister was killed in the 2015 charleston shooting, well can you say to the families, what can you
share with us about what this experience is like? >> well, first thank you for having me. there is no real one word that i can say, that will give people comfort, there is no one action, none of us to deal with the wounds of grieving mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters, grandmothers and grandfathers, after such a horrific event. the only thing i can try and do, and my words of love and compassion, as i understand the pain of loss, i understand the grieving process. for me, pain has kind of driven my purpose, given me a sense of responsibility to act, but it's no one thing i can think of families right now that will make them truly feel comfort. and it's unfortunate, i've dedicated my life for the past seven years, the rest of my life to trying to combat the nra, are the people that put guns, the concept of the first amendment above the lives of so
many precious souls. all i could do is be a true vessel to fight against the radical and are a, those that put profit, gun profit over the lives of children, or churchgoers, people that are going to the grocery store to provide nutrition for themselves. >> derek, the school had security in place, as we mentioned the police chief just completed the active shooter training course. just as recent as december, and yet still, the response, the preparation, that failed to protect the lives of those -- >> derek, the school had security in place, as we mentioned the police chief just completed the active shooter training course. just as recent as december, and
yet still, the response, the preparation, that failed to protect the lives of those 19 children. how can the gop still hold on to this good guys with a gun are the answer theory when we've seen time and time again it is not working? >>, well, they are peddling in fear and as long as they have a message but still usurp the whole message, that message -- i truly believe that if we talk from a posture of love, if we address the human need, if we talk about protecting our young people who are simply going to school, or elderly who are going to the grocery store, and we push towards public policy that's national, not state by state, public policy that's proven to be effective as we've seen take place in other nations. where the only developed nation that has this level of gun violence private. i don't care if it's in the hands of a white supremacist, someone with a mental illness, or crime between ones community,
it all has the same common denominator, we lack strong public policy to keep people safe, to take the guns out of individuals hands, and stop with all of the industry putting profit above people. more importantly, we must truly be a nation that loved one's neighbor we, must post a love of neighbor first in the public policy. it is not enough to give -- after there's been a tragedy we must be looking on how we prevent future tragedy, the only way we can do that is policy and how we get there is change the policy makers because they are not listening. and really starting texas, restarting the black community, and others who love our neighbors and ways in which the public policy to reflect that same love. >> ja, your reaction to the police failure at the school? >> it's unbelievably tragic, right. again, it goes against everything republican year there is from saying for years in the wake of so many tragedies in this country, a
concept of giving good guys with guns, it's bigger than that. we have an issue in this country with gun violence, with white supremacist gun violence, with mental health gun violence. and it's bigger than equipping more people with guns, some from the south, i understand the history of the second amendment, specifically in the african american community. where jim crow, our gum rights were limited, we need to put things in place, policies in place legislation in place, we need to change the culture also. where we need to stop people that more than likely will commit -- it's simple to me. we need to also make sure that
weapons of war aren't in the hands of civilians, the pain. i was preparing to go to buffalo when i heard about the news in texas. and my heart broke, again, the suffering that these families one through and the fact that we have republican leadership in this country that is putting special interests like the nra, gun lobbyists all over this country, people above peoples lives is disgusting to. may i don't understand it, i don't get it. and we can continue to pretend as mr. johnson, said that we need to change the policy in this country, all over this country need to do it in texas, south carolina, we gotta do it in every part of the country where people are putting profits of the gun industry above human life. -- the majority of americans are in the position that we're
taking. >> mr. johnson, i need to ask you quickly with the functioning of our democracy here for a moment. because when you look at some of the breakdown of recent polls, the majority of americans support gun reform, background checks, red flag laws and yet our democracy is not responsive to this, it's not passing this and you can go through the list a thing after thing whether it's abortion -- -- >> mr. johnson, i need to ask you quickly with the because when you look at some of the breakdown of recent polls, the majority of americans support gun reform, background checks, red flag laws and yet our democracy is not responsive to this, it's not passing this and you can go through the list a thing after thing whether it's abortion rights, voting rights,
police reform, things are not getting done. do you worry that the democracy that we live in, is no longer functioning in a way that it can deliver reforms, and solutions to these pressing problems? >>, i think the democracy is functioning western states like texas that have a super sized voice, although the majority of the citizens of texas are citizens who i hope will have a moment open-ear for this tragedy. and they understand that their decision, in november's election will have an impact, and that decision on whether to vote or not to vote will move forward. were nonpartisan -- but if you look at the fact record of some of the policy makers, it's not in the interest of the majority of texans period. we must move in a direction where voters understand what's at stake, but their options are, and encourage and support them to activate on what's the best interest of the community that they live in, that the seam to prosper because in many cases, texas is one of those huge states that have a super sized voice in terms of our public
policy, and our goal should be to -- consistent with the rest of the country. >> derrick johnson and state representative ja moore, thank you for starting up this hour i greatly appreciate it. republicans aren't the only obstacle to pass the gun reform legislation, there is of course the filibuster, congressman mondaire joins wants to abolish the senate filibuster he joins me next talk about that and more. talk about that an more elps everyone come to the table and do more incredible things. ♪ ♪ we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative.
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times sunday review cover. it lists 15 mass shootings in this country over the last decade where the shooters got their weapons legally. 285 lives were lost in those 15 shootings along. congress has been able to pass gun reform legislations and there are two reasons for that. republicans and the senate filibuster. as new york congressman tweeted this week, i'm tired of seeing the people gaslit by senators who send their thoughts and personnel have the guts to take action. they care more about the jim crow filibuster than seething children's lives. it is shameful. congressman mondaire jones joins me now.
he represents new york's 17th district in newly redrawn tent district. congressman jones, thanks for your time. let's talk through the argument and how we connect the dots between abolishing the filibuster and saving children 's life. >> thanks for having me, amen. let me start by saying i am outraged by the fact that congress has failed to act, and in particular the senate has failed to act, to do that which the overwhelming majority of american people want. to pass common sense legislation to end gun violence in this country. yes, universal background checks but the stuff is not rocket science. it's common sense. because of this relic that requires 60 votes in the senate instead of straight up or down majority vote. we can't pass any of that because we can't find ten republican senators with good
conscience is. to elevate the interest of the american people over the interests of the nra and their own campaign accounts. it's shameful and we've got to get rid of the filibuster for that reason. >> this week, congressman, senate failed to pass the terrorism prevention act which had already passed the house. what are your thoughts on that? >> that was a bill that i helped pass out of the house. i served on the judiciary committee, and i'm very passionate about providing additional resources to federal law enforcement to root out the rising threat of white supremacist domestic violence. we've seen the aapi community, we've seen black and brown communities targeted, jews targeted. this is something that the senate should be passing, but yet again, because of this filibuster, which by the way, just a few months ago helped to block voting rights legislation that i helped coauthor, over in the united states senate. once again a, because of the filibuster we cannot get past that. we've got to do away with this.
americans want to see representative government. they want to see that when you elect a party to govern, that party is not obstructed by additional rules like some supermajority voting requirement. it makes it really difficult for americans to have faith in their government when they vote for folks who are still unable to deliver because of some great -- jim crow relic, who by the way historically has been weaponized to block progress in other contexts. we saw during the civil rights and voting rights legislation. >> what would you say? let me ask to those who are watching this? what would you say to them who say you can do it. get rid of the filibuster. pass legislation now and in two years time when they control the house or the senate, they may lash out and do something even more aggressive, more extreme than what we are seeing right now. >> look, the problems that we are facing can hardly grow worse than what we are currently experiencing. the fact is, if we get rid of the filibuster and democrats can actually pass the
legislation that is broadly popular with the american people, then we will be rewarded by being reelected and elected again. we will have durable majorities, and we will finally have a government that works for the people. the american people don't want the republican agenda. my republican colleagues are not talking about what they want to do. i don't want you to know that they're going to pass a nationwide abortion -- they don't want you to know that they want to raise taxes on the middle class. that's why people in leadership in the republic and senate were so upset when rick scott let that slip out. i believe in having a completely responsive government, and then the american people will see that there is a real material difference when democrats are in control and when republicans are in control. >> i mentioned that the republicans and filibuster are to blame for lack of gun control legislation, but the judiciary also plays an
important role as the supreme court is set to vote on an important second amendment case the summer. you're also in favor of expanding the supreme court. you think that would make a difference in the way, not only the supreme court, but the judiciary generally deals with some of the pressing issues our country is facing, including gun rights? >> absolutely. this case before the supreme court right now, isn't about the second amendment. it's about the partisan agenda of six ideologues in the majority right now who want to completely do away with common sense efforts to end gun violence in this country. and long before we saw justice -- strapped opinion reporting to overturn roe we wait, i introduced legislation to -- because i knew that we would
find ourselves in this moment. it's why it is so important to have people in congress who are going to fight tooth and nail for things we say we believe. and they're not just going to stop at abortion. they're not just going to stop at striking down common sense legislation to end gun violence in this country. they're coming for marriage equality. they're coming for contraception. they're even coming for the right to marry someone of a different race. if you look at the other precedents that justice alito cited in his draft opinion, he takes issue with a whole slew of supreme court decisions. these are really scary times. it's important that we act proactively and with mission and boldly, to protect fundamental rights while we still have the chance to do so. >> i gotta ask you really quickly, congressman, about your candidacy for new york's tenth congressional district. it's a newly redrawn district. it has been the center of a lot of attention given what has played out in new york. tell us about your decision to
run there and what your message is to that members of the district who you haven't represented before. >> new york's tenth congressional district is lower manhattan and parts of brooklyn. it is a district that has given so much to me. i made history back in 2020 when i was elected our nation's first openly gay african member of congress. -- they taught me how to be my authentic self. they taught me how to live authentically. i've worked in the district. i've spent a lot of time in the district. it's given so much to me, and thankfully have already been fighting for the communities that comprise this district, whether it was passing the american rescue plan, which cut child poverty in half -- kept small businesses open and -- played a leading role in passing not just house version of build back better, whose universal child care provisions -- but also the infrastructure investment and jobs act.
which will bring billions of dollars to the new york state and millions of dollars to new york's ten congressional district. we need a proven fighter, a progressive champion with a record of delivering results, and that is the kind of leadership that i promise to bring to this district that has given so much to me, and that i love so dearly. >> congressman, mondaire jones, we will follow that race closely and speak to you in months ahead. >> thanks so much. >> next, the disgusting conspiracies coming out of the nra conference. richard, the headlines? >> we're watching stories this hour. president zelenskyy visiting frontline troops in kharkiv in east sunday. it is zelenskyy's first official trip outside the capital region of kyiv since the war began. this comes just days after russian forces renewed shelling in kharkiv as part of a new offensive. workers at a starbucks in birmingham, alabama, voted to unionize, making it the
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in houston, they actually called the uvalde massacre a false flag operation orchestrated by the left to push gun reform. now -- this is all propaganda, they'll use anything to make us look bad, the timing of the shooting which occurred days before the convention, suspicious wondering whether there was forces, someplace that somehow find troubled people and nurture and develop them and push them for their own agenda. now, there were times when comments would've been rare, but in the age of qanon and donald trump's lies, these conspiracies are spreading like wild lyre, and for more on this we're joined by igor volsky, executive of guns down, america he's the author of guns down, how defeat the nra and build a super future with fewer guns. igor, great to see you again these are the same conspiracy theories that were tragically and sadly pushed by alex jones after the sandy hook shooting
ten years ago. how do you explain why they now permeated and taken hold even more? >> it's so tragic, ayman, i feel for the families that have to hear this kind of herb edge. the community of course, grieving such loss and confronted with -- part of the reason why it's brad, is the embrace that donald trump gives conspiracy theories that and his supporters and congress, kind of the bullhorn effect that they provide to this kind of garbage. the way they legitimize these people, and the question is, what do we do and how do we fight against it, if we can't agree that a shrink -- actually legitimately it's really hard then to actually build political compromise to get something done. >> igor, set the record
straight for us here, the new york times reports that the nra has been weekend by scandal and eternal conflict over the past few years. are you seeing any evidence at this convention, this weekend that their strength is severely diminished, on the other hand you have the rank and file the republicans still wanting to go through these nra conventions whether it's the governor of texas, senator cruz, or former president donald trump. it's still a force to be reckoned with in our politics, is it not? >> it is a four, same, and it's a force because governorship isn't just about the nra it's about the entire identity, it's intertwined in ways like -- masculinity, racism, and guns. those three issues that we've seen over decades really strengthen, and grow with the conservative movement. it's no accident, that one guns were first mass manufactured,
you had some of the earlier manufacturer recognized that in order to sell more guns, they should wrap their firearms in notions of masculinity. that having a gun really makes you a man, or makes you a real man, and they use that kind of language, those kinds of marketing campaigns, to help push their product, not to mention of course the racist undertones that we have seen in that marketing, and we still see today. it's not a large cultural identity, that's the strength of the nra, that's the strength i think, and really the barrier that a lot of us who want to see tougher gun lines up against. >> where do we go from here, you may have caught my conversation with congressman mondaire jones, that filibuster reform can anything meaningful
be accomplished, to keep tragedies like this to keep repeating every ten days? >> that's a key question, we need filibuster reform, we need to expand the court as we were discussing. but frankly, this is a long term average, we need to really rewrite the script, and voters i think certainly survivors, who i've talked to relic ross the country, they want to see a president play -- that script. by storming the country calming, and building the support for change. but again opening of gun violence protection, because a man, if you have these conspiracies take root on the right, a counterbalance. leaders on the left or in the middle, we really need to aggressively push against those notions, but also make a public case, and energize those 90% -- who support background checks, assault weapon bans, and other kinds of reform and translate
that support into real political power. it's up to them, it won't be easy because of the systemic challenges you outlined, but voters will reward politicians who fight for them. >> eagarville ski, great talking to you again i wish it wasn't so frequent but i appreciate your insight on this subject matter. up next, a major warning for red states they're not prepared to handle a baby boom, is if roe v. wade is actually overturned, we'll explain that after the break. th at's why we build technology that helps everyone come to the table and do more incredible things. ♪ ♪
♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. that's why we build technology that helps everyone come to the table and do more incredible things. ♪ ♪ red states aren't prepared for a post roe baby boom. if the supreme court does in fact overturn roe versus right, the red states police the ban are severely limited abortions already can have limited access to health care, they have poor health outcomes, and fewer safety net -- for mothers and children in suing increased in birth will likely leave families in tough circumstances, in strain
systems that are already -- hidden by a threat in the states. joining me now is doctor kumar -- planned parenthood center for choice, in houston, texas, doctor thank you so much for making time for us. what has your experience been as an abortion provider in the wake of the republican legislation that all but banned abortion asks us in your state? >> yeah, this is certainly not something that's new for us in texas, it's been a decade or more, our public and elected officials have been passing abortion restrictions after -- more extreme as time certainly were in the most extreme place we've been ever, and we also have a supreme court case that will be decide in the next few weeks as you mentioned has the potential to ban abortion access in about half of the country so it's a very difficult time for us taking care of people who oftentimes will say things like i never thought i would need an
abortion i never thought having an abortion but, now we're in a place where we're not in a position to help them by having to get in a state -- and as you mentioned oklahoma's pass another abortion law that's becoming worse and worse with time unfortunately. >> how concerned are you about red states like texas, not having the infrastructure to support the requirements or health requirements of a baby boom if roe v. wade is overturned? >> yeah, i'm very concerned we know that one folks don't have access to abortion and the forced to carry their pregnancies to term that people suffer, folks make decision about what's best for them their health, history what's best for their family oftentimes -- and when they don't have access to abortion care, they don't have access to health care that they need we know the access industry as far as the insurance access and the primary care doctor to have the things they need before they
become, and after is not in place they will suffer, people will suffer and some people will die unfortunately. we also know from the study that you mentioned that states that have the most abortion restriction actually have the highest maternal tragedy. and where's health care outcome. so, the writings on the wall banning access to abortion will cause people to suffer we already know that, yet here we are with politicians continuing to press abortion bans at the cost of peoples lives. >> you joined vice president kamala harris in a virtual panel discussion about abortion access a couple weeks ago i want to play a bit of what she has to say, watch. >> this is about our future at the same time we cannot deny that this decision will have real and immediate effects on women around our country. >> how important is it for someone like the vice president
to be having these conversations in the public, for the public. >> i think it's very important, this is my second time meeting with vice president and it was nice to have a frank conversation about what we're seeing on the ground. i think that's at the root of what vice president harris wanted to hear. what's happening on the ground, what's happening in people that need access to care and it's really reassuring to see somebody with so much power, such high office to the folks that are on the ground what's going on, and what we're seeing and who are seeing affected. and it really got a sense of vice president harris is a good understanding of the importance -- as far as what can be done and the political a new morning i'm not an expert on that so i cannot speak, that but it's definitely nice to hear somebody with so much power and high office asking the people on the ground what's happening. doctor bhavik kumar thank you for your time, greatly
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unrelenting grief and tragedy, how do we as a society begin to cope with this collective trauma? here to discuss this and more is dr. al iffy -- psychologist and founder of the oacoma project, a nonprofit organization focused on addressing the mental health needs of youth of color. she spoke at the white house's mental health youth action for just this month. doctor, thank you for taking time with us. i want to start with the latest shooting in uvalde, texas. some including the governor, greg abbott, were quick to point fingers and blame mental
illness, and of course it's a lot more complex than that. what kind of impact does it have to conflate events like this with our nation's mental health crisis? >> ayman, thank you for having me. it's an honor to be here. i think, as we think about this month of mental health awareness, one of the things that we need to think about as we sometimes can use mental illness to stigmatize people and push them out further into the margins. when we look at the data around mass shootings are about gun violence and mental illness, far less than 10% of people who engage in these kinds of acts are really struggling with a diagnose mental illness. the vast majority of people struggling with mental illnesses don't commit these kinds of acts, so i think the difficulty is we tend to go in the wrong direction when we talk about mental health impacts of things like mass shootings that happen at the elementary school. instead, but we should be talking about is the downstream
impacts that these kinds of events on the people who are impacted, and not what is the mental health state of the person who is committing the act. >> yeah, and you bring up a really good point. i'm glad you did bring that up, because after the supermarket shooting in buffalo, a poll found that three quarters of black americans are now worried that they or someone they love will be attacked because of their race, and we've often heard of the expression, living while black. can you talk to us about the mental toll of living under that kind of distress, that kind of fear? and how events like what we saw in buffalo add up to an already deep rooted anxiety in the society for black americans? >> absolutely, so as an african
american myself, obviously we think about these things from a clinical perspective. and a couple of terms like when i heard you mention collective trauma and when it's complex trauma. and one is vicarious trauma. even if you're not physically present for the event you are traumatized by the reports either in the media or what you hear from loved ones or the kinds of discussions you have on social media or with your loved ones. i can even speak for myself, right after the shooting in buffalo i was outside in the area where i lived and i was hypervigilant. i was looking around worried, and i was with my teenager. might something happen to me? one thing i want to encourage people to understand is that these kinds of incidents that happen to those of us of color, right? me as a black woman or the asian american community that
was targeted in california, or the primarily latinx community that was just attacked in texas. these things don't happen because of our race ethnicity and identities, because other people have negative perceptions of who we are. that's a really important difference, because it alleviates some of the pressure that we need to change ourselves to not be a target. other people need to really change their behavior to not focus on targeting those of us who have these marginalized identities. >> as i mentioned, doctor, he spoke at the white house this mental health -- mental health awareness month. it's mental health crisis, it has hit children and teens especially hard. youth suicide sadly is on the rise in the country, particularly again, among children of color. how did it get to this point? how do we reverse it? with canned parents and communities do to help? >> i think i'm going to start with what can parents and communities do to help. i think it's important people to hear it. one of the first things we could do's exactly what we're
doing on your show, which is have the conversation because for so many of us of communities with color because we have identities that are marginalized in our country and globally, i think we are hesitant to sometimes accept these labels around mental illness, because they further pushes to the margins. i think part of how we dispel those myths as we help people through doing things like what we did with mtv and the white house, the biden harris administration with the form. we had a beautiful group of young people who came out and were very public about their own struggles with mental illness and a very diverse group. that's part of it. i think as well, we want to preemptively find resources to help ourselves when we find ourselves in a situation where we may need some support. do you have access to some of the good apps, high quality apps that can help you in case you don't have the ability to get to have professionals office? do you have tools that you can use? one of the things that we do with this project as we're always talking about self-help tools in case you cannot get to a mental health professional. those are the things i encourage people to do. but i would say in terms of how -- i think in some cases we've failed to pay attention to the
needs of our young people well in advance of this. so for many groups, mental illness rates and the challenges around emotional well-being were already on the rise, and i think would happen in the pandemic is just got exacerbated, and for kids of color, because as you mentioned, we have racial justice, social justice reckoning, not to mention climate change, which worries of a lot of our young people. we were in isolation. dealing with all of this, we had a perfect storm. >> i gotta ask you really quickly before i let you go, if somebody is watching this at home and it resonates with them, this conversation, what do you recommend they do next? what is the next step towards mental health? >> go to the website to get support. there's a website called sound about together dot org to help you start a conversation. and lean on someone you trust and ask them if they would be willing to walk with you and give you some support. >> doctor alfiee breland-noble, thank you for having this conversation with me. it's been a very difficult week. i'm hoping that whoever is watching this right now hits your words and advice. thank you so much, doctor. >> thank you, sir. >> coming up this hour on aim, in the gop supported effort to put election deniers in charge